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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.12 15:46:00 -
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Zones like this should be for the tutorial only.
once eve has equipped you with what you need to play the game - show you how to fit a ship, how to fly around, how to warp, how to use a stargate etc - then you should be dumped in to the pond with the rest of us.
we also need to accept that the NPE shouldn't end with the tutorials, also. it's the new player experience, not the tutorial experience. |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:03:00 -
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afkalt wrote:think about the tutorial and it's nature, is it any wonder newbies end up missioning and mining and quit from boredom?!?!
It's all it teaches them!
that's not a problem, that's what a tutorial is for.
the problem is that the NPE ends with the tutorial. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:13:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:No. Go play WoW if you like that game.
just because wow has a feature, doesn't mean the feature is bad or we should ignore glaring failures within eve. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:20:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:No. Go play WoW if you like that game. just because wow has a feature, doesn't mean the feature is bad or we should ignore glaring failures within eve. Killing other players everywhere/anytime is not a "glaring failure" within EvE. It's is major achievement.
except we're talking about the NPE here. do keep up, darling. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:32:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:No. Go play WoW if you like that game. just because wow has a feature, doesn't mean the feature is bad or we should ignore glaring failures within eve. Killing other players everywhere/anytime is not a "glaring failure" within EvE. It's is major achievement. except we're talking about the NPE here. do keep up, darling. Specially in the NPE, in the first 1-2 hours of the game, new players should lose all their ship to ganks and be podded, multiple times. They should also be scammed, awoxed, wardec, lose every isk/ship. Everything cool in eve should happen in the first few hours of game. Welcome to EvE Online. Deal with it, or goodbye and go play some random kindergarten themepark mmo-rpg. This is what the NPE should be like.
that's nice, but when they don't even understand how the UI works, doing all of that is irrelevant because they don't understand what's going on, nor do they understand what's going on within the context of the game.
you've just showed them a load of crap they don't understand and will put no effort in to remembering because you haven't even shown them how to undock.
it's like giving a toddler a book by dickens and going "read it or you're going to the orphanage", might want to teach them to read before you give them a book? |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:42:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Last I checked vets greifing noobs in starter systems gets you banned. There you go, protected noobie zone.
Do we have any more suggestions from people more interested in making a living from the game then actually playing it?
the repercussions of griefing players who don't even understand how the UI functions are irrelevant - it shouldn't be possible in the first place.
There's no real reason to expose people to other players, especially in eve, before they've even learned the basics of how to interact with the game.
the less time and resources that are spent on banning current players abusing new players is more time and resources that can be dedicated to increasing the retention rate above 50%. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.13 06:59:00 -
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ihcn wrote:I read the thread title and said "no" out loud. Why would "safe zones" be an appropriate introduction to a game infamous for the fact that safe zones do not exist?
i think an area where you can learn how the ui and basic game functions work before being put in to the actual game is appropriate for any game. |
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